Apollo 18 is a SF/Horror movie presented as newly-found film footage taken by the fictional crew of a lost 1970s lunar landing mission.  The Apollo 18 film uses real NASA movie footage from the Moon (some of it doctored with CGI) and new studio-shot footage with actors and special effects to tell its story. In reality there really was a planned Apollo 18 mission but it never left the ground. Let us examine Apollo 18 and other lost Moon voyages.

(NB if you are looking for a discussion of the realism of the movie Apollo 18, see my review.)

Project Apollo dominating the ‘70’s like a bloodless war, was to pass into history…After that nothing would ever be the same again. When men raised their eyes to the Moon they would know that their comrades were looking down at them.

These words were written by Arthur C. Clarke in 1964 in an early draft of what later became 2001: a Space Odyssey. At the time it seemed a plausible vision of the future. NASA officials and most space buffs expected dozens or more Apollo missions to the Moon in the next decades including the founding of bases on the Moon. However only a minority of taxpayers were enthusiastic about grand space adventures (a fact which is even more true today) and public support for the project faded. As early as 1967 NASA’s budget began to shrink while the US struggled to waste money and lives in Vietnam.

A mere six months after the triumph of Apollo 11, NASA abandoned its plans for Apollo 20 in January 1970.Worse was to come:Apollos 18 and 19 were officially cancelled in September 1970 because of planned cuts to NASA’s budget for 1971.Public interest in the exploration of another world had dropped sharply after Buzz and Neil’s excellent adventure with minimal attention paid to Apollo 12. Newspaper editorials and public figures were calling for the following flights to be cancelled and the money allocated for them spent to eliminate poverty instead. It is said NASA chiefs were not wholly unhappy with the decision to terminate the lunar missions; the Agency had achieved the goal of landing men on the Moon and returning them by John F. Kennedy’s deadline, and they feared a fatal accident would eventually occur if the program continued. Losing an Apollo crew might have damaged NASA so severely as to destroy the Agency, ending American crewed spaceflight.

 

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The Last Man on the Moon: Eugene Cernan poses by the flag in his A7L spacesuit in December 1972.(Image Credit:NASA)

 

All three cancelled missions were so-called ‘J-series’ missions like Apollos 1517 (Apollo missions were originally planned in lettered series, becoming more ambitious as they proceeded through the alphabet). These missions called for astronauts to stay on the lunar surface for three days or so and make three moonwalks. They would take advantage of improved procedures and technology developed with the experience of the earlier landings, for example on these missions the crews wore upgraded spacesuits permitting greater comfort and mobility and they rolled over the Moon’s terrain in Lunar Roving Vehicles to increase the area explored. The Lunar Modules used were of an updated design allowing heavier loads of gear to be carried to the surface. The last three Apollo missions delivered substantial scientific returns, and one can only speculate on what the cancelled missions would have found.

Apollos 18-20 were intended to visit a couple of large impact craters, the hope being that the samples returned would include ancient rocks from deep inside the Moon.This was expected to be essentially unchanged since the Moon formed. Such primordial material is buried beyond our reach on Earth and studying it would have provided a bonanza of data on the early Solar System.

An important character in the story of the lost Apollo missions is astronaut Harrison “Jack” Schmitt (b1935), a professional geologist. Schmitt was one of the ‘scientist-astronauts’ selected in 1965 for their academic and research skills rather than their piloting proficiency. When it became clear that the moonlandings would cease in the mid-1970s, NASA was pressured into ensuring that at least one of these scientists flew on a mission, leading to Schmitt’s selection for a place on Apollo 18. Schmitt lobbied for his mission to visit the crater Tsiolkovsky on the lunar farside. This would require a dedicated communication satellite to relay the crew’s transmissions to Earth and Schmitt costed the use of surplus Telstars in his proposals. However NASA’s management rejected this plan for its expense and greater risk. No human being has yet walked on the Moon’s farside.

Apollo 18 was intended to take place in July 1973.It would have seen the mission’s Commander (CDR) Richard Gordon (a veteran of Apollo 12) and Lunar Module Pilot (LMP) Harrison Schmitt descend to a landing in the crater Gassendi on the northern edge of Mare Humorum. Left behind in lunar orbit would have been Command Module Pilot (CMP) Vance Brand (note that astronauts Benjamin Anderson,  Nathan Walker and John Grey, the crew members named in the movie Apollo 18 are completely fictitious; no real astronauts of these names ever existed). In the event, Schmitt did make it to the Moon despite the cancellation of Apollo 18. He was reassigned to Apollo 17 to explore Taurus-Littrow, replacing Joe Engle as LMP on that mission so that a scientist did get to the Moon’s surface before the project was terminated. Schmitt was the first and so far only scientist to carry out research on another world. Today, the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project’s CSM is occasionally referred to as Apollo 18, but this not correct. The Saturn 5 intended for this mission is on display at the Johnson Space Center in Texas.
 

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Copernicus Crater photographed from Apollo 17.(Image Credit:NASA)

 

Apollo 19 was penciled in for December 1973. The landing site would have been the floor of the prominent crater Copernicus. The crew would have been Apollo 13’s LMP Fred Haise (CDR), William Pogue (CMP) and Gerard Carr (LMP).

At the time of its cancellation, a crew had not been selected for Apollo 20. If it had gone ahead in the summer of 1974, the astronauts would have explored the volcanic domes in the Marius Hills on the Oceanus Procellarum, or possibly the rim of the bright crater Tycho. Tycho was considered a slightly risky landing site, and going there would have needed relaxation of some of the rules, but as a relatively young crater (possibly less than 200 million years old) it was intriguing to geologists. Apollo 20’s Saturn 5 was modified and used to place the Skylab space station into orbit in 1973.
 

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The rim of Tycho imaged by the Kaguya mission.In an alternate universe Apollo 20 could have landed there in 1974 (and found that black monolith 27 years early!) (Image credit:JAXA)

 

Strangely starting in 2007 an elaborate hoax has been created around Apollo 20. Someone calling himself William Rutledge (or sometimes Routledge) claims in telephone interviews with European journalists to have actually flown on this mission as the LMP in August 1976. Launched from Vandenberg AFB in California, this secret US-Soviet mission was allegedly commanded by veteran cosmonaut Alexei Leonov while the CMP was a lady called Leona Snyder (who would have been both the second woman in space and first African-American astronaut were she not entirely fictitious). “Rutledge” says the secret US-Soviet mission was an exploration of a derelict alien vessel and a city on the farside of the Moon. The mission allegedly brought back the preserved body of a female alien! A lot of work has gone into supporting this fabrication, including the creation of elaborate movies including real (but sometimes doctored) imagery from Apollo missions, (unconvincing) CGI sequences and even a sculpted alien corpse, but the story is accepted as fact only by those who prefer fantasy to reality (and, unsurprisingly, this hoax is claimed to be genuine by some who decry Apollos 11-17 as fakes!)
 

 

Could the US have launched an Apollo lunar mission in secret? The answer, unsurprisingly is no. All the Saturn 5 rockets ordered are accounted for. Even if an additional one had been built, where did it go? Moving individual stages of this cyclopean booster was a major task. For example, the 42m long S-1C stage of each rocket was built in New Orleans before being loaded into a barge and shipped along a public waterway to the Gulf of Mexico on the way to Florida. It would be hard to miss that. Even harder to explain would be how a 3000 tonne rocket could be launched without anyone noticing! Apollo launches were spectacular enough to send vibrations through the Earth’s crust, geologists world wide would have noticed!

By the way, secretly assembling and launching an Apollo mission from the US Air Force’s Vandenberg AFB launch site in California is impossible for many reasons. Even today this site lacks the facilities to launch so large a rocket, nor is it as isolated from public gaze as some suggest. The colossal sound and fury of a Saturn 5 launch would have drawn attention from across the state. Apollo lunar missions had to be launched west to east (to gain the advantage of the Earth’s spin)  so an Apollo mission taking off from California would have had to cross the continental United States and been seen by thousands if not millions of people. Discarded lower stages from a Saturn 5 falling on land would have been hard to miss too!
 

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Apollo 8’s S-1C stage being erected.It would impossible to conceal engineering on this scale. (Image credit:NASA)

 

There were other cancelled Moon missions on the other side of the Iron Curtain.I have written elsewhere about the USSR’s abortive plans to reach the Moon. Nine cosmonauts trained for landings but their missions were cancelled after Apollo 11 (if these had gone ahead Leonov would have been the first cosmonaut to climb the ladder down to the lunar surface). If you watch the Apollo 18 movie, a Soviet LK lander plays a major role in the plot.

The Saturn 5 rockets and Apollo spacecraft were already paid for and under construction when their missions were cancelled. The Apollo components became museum exhibits and two of the rockets were transformed into the world’s biggest and most expensive lawn ornaments. Alas, despite the premature ending of Apollo, the poor are still with us. After years of training, the disappointed astronauts assigned to these flights retired or were reassigned to the Skylab or Apollo-Soyuz Test Project.Some even flew in the Shuttle in the 1980s. It is hard to believe that some evenings they do not stand in the silvery moonlight and wonder about what might have been.
 
(You can read my opinions on other Apollo movies here.

UPDATE:my review of Apollo 18)

 

(Article by Colin Johnston, Science Education Director)


195 Comments

Arshad · August 6, 2019 at 19:15

After Gallelio seeing the moons on jupiter.
Men takeing interest we have some neighbors planet.
Exist
Also
But what is on there surface we want to know
&Their creations . Is there some men exists like us
Can we made communication with them //
Like me I want to talk to ISS astronaut Christina on my roof looking sky // experience 1 achievements …
Like Arshad
NASA people are not different than me & what I think
About outer world
This begins a brave Apollo (Roman god) programme are held to see the moon and eat & drink on moon
Amazing program
People’s who live only earth think fake mission
People who live in god’s world of pure human atmosphere. enjoy the Apollo programs on moons surface..

nicholas · March 16, 2019 at 12:53

i think Apollo 18 did happen there’s probably so much stuff the government has done that they don’t tell anyone man has probably already been to mars already

    Ethan · March 20, 2019 at 05:08

    Yes.I think the government is covering up secrets from the people

Thang Nguyen · March 13, 2019 at 17:40

I still believe that some more Appolo missions were still carried on until it’s cancelled completely. The US gorvernment lied to their own citizens too many times that it could be already launched without advertising and complete in secrecy, and that these explanations are enough. Weren’t most of unexplained dissapearing of personal assigned to a mere training exercise on somewhere that could never be associated with their presence there? And I believe that Appolo missions weren’t canceled completely but temporarily resting for better equipment to carry out their tasks not necessarily safer but more efficace. Because without heavier equipments, all the missions are likeeasy paid vacation to those astronauts without real economic results, because if there was, you think the commerce will step aside from it without making any contribution to the budget to maintain these missions ?

[The astronauts knows the risks when they signed for it, that’s the ultimate first requirement (not the first condition) to step on the Appolo LRM, exactly like the police or the soldiers, they know the hazardous of their profession.]

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Leon Baradat · September 18, 2018 at 04:51

Nice! You’re right about Edwards AFB. I once watched a satellite launch from there (from a distance of course).

Karen U · February 23, 2016 at 21:04

My Dad worked at the Kennedy Space Center from 1966-1975. He worked for North American- Rockwell. He was a technician on the launch pads and met all of the Apollo crews during his time at the Space Center. Americans really did land on the moon and walk on the moon. I watched every launch from Gemini 4 thru Apollo 17. We lived in Titusville, FL, directly across the Indian River from the Cape and had an excellent view of each launch. The Space Program was ended for one simple reason, government funding was cut off. President Nixon wanted to elimanate Apollo 16 and 17 as well, but was persuaded to complete those flights since everything for those flights were basically completed and paid for. We did not forget or lose our technology, nor was there a secret mission to the moon. A Saturn 5 rocket is so powerful it can rattle and break windows miles away, make your insides feel like they are being shaken to pieces and probably the loudest sound ever known to mankind during liftoff. You can’t do it secretly. People can have their theories and disbelieve anything and everything, but I was there. Thousands of people, from dozens of companies in almost every state were part of the Apollo Program. July 20, 1969 was the most monumental moment and proudest moment not just for the United States, but for all humankind on earth. Peace

    Allen · March 22, 2019 at 20:24

    Karen, Thank you for the memories and for your voice of reason against the madness.

roget jay · May 17, 2015 at 03:15

The movie Apollo 18 would have been much more believeable had the rocks the crew members had discovered were not alien bugs that had morphed into spider like creatures
A more realistic scene would have been that the aliens would have come from under ground areas much like ants on earths do.and that these creatures would be predatory and very aggressive in nature & strong enough to rip thru space suits the soviet lunar
lander is very intriguing an that it landed on the far side of the moon what better way to hide from u.s. eyes in any case whether real or just CGI made it would be a truly alien and perhaps creepy place to visit ones imagination would have to be under control in other words you lose it here your in a world of hurt.

chris · March 6, 2015 at 03:44

Look, I just came back from the moon and found no foot prints from the apparent apollo 17 landing nor did i witness a russian presence! We can now all sleep well tonight knowing I was the first to land on the moon.
P.S I now accepting donations for my next trip.
All that donate will recieve a pic of me on the moon drunk with my arm around a martian.
Cheers. 😉

Abhishek P · February 13, 2015 at 02:43

Hey admin,
I’m from India. I think the apollos were fake cause, why after 40 years of their last mission in 1972, they haven’t sent another man??? the answer is b’cause after 1972 USSR got technology of space tracking. Now they could track an spacecraft that whether it’s landing on moon or making a loop around it. If NASA has landed man on moon in 1969, in 2015 there would have been several space centres on moon. It’s unbelievable that what US has done in 1969 others have failed to achieve it 40 years later. Even in 2008 India was just able to land an unmanned probe. So were Russia and China. What do u say..?

    admin · February 13, 2015 at 09:34

    Dear Abhishek, thanks for your comments. Why hasn’t there been any further human missions to the moon since 1972? I’d hoped the article was clear that before even Apollo 11 landed the Apollo landing missions were to end with Apollo 20. This was not the original plan which was to continue regular and increasingly elaborate missions throughout the 1970s (see Mars by ’85? NASA’s alternative history for an idea of how the future looked from the mid-1960s), but NASA’s budget was repeatedly cut until the program ended with Apollo 17. There has been no other missions because of the huge cost and lack of public and political interest in lunar exploration.

    Why do you think

    after 1972 USSR got technology of space tracking. Now they could track an spacecraft that whether it’s landing on moon or making a loop around it.

    ?

    In the 1960s the USSR sent numerous robot missions to the Moon and its vicinity, including the Zond series some of which were “rehearsals” for sending cosmonauts around the Moon. The USSR also operated interplanetary probes. They had facilities for tracking and communicating with all of these (link). At the same time as the Apollo missions, the USSR planned several human missions to the Moon (link), implying that that they could track and communicate with expeditions to the Moon prior to 1972.

    I’m delighted to confirm that humans did visit the Moon, but disappointed that we don’t do that any more.

MikeT · February 5, 2015 at 18:04

I just wanted to add to all the comments that I can clearly remember all the Moon Landing coverage and it was all perfectly plausible given the technology of the day. I think there could easily have been a secret mission (eg Apollo 20), about which you can find a lot of info on the Net. It was launched from Vandenburg. Most people couldn’t identify a rocket if it was standing next to them let alone launching at night. The theory is that they went to investigate a crashed alien ship on the farside of the Moon which is not visible from Earth (it is NOT the darkside).
It is possible this is true because there are authentic photos taken from earlier orbiting Apollo missions showing such an object. Whether the other claims about what was discovered are true is anyone’s guess. I would not dismiss it all as a hoax. That is the easiest get out there is. The best cover story is to do something that is so outrageous that no-one will believe that it could be possible. A cover-up is then ridiculously easy.
The other question as to why we don’t go to the Moon now is possibly due to what we found when we first visited, or alternatively, we have a secret space program run by the military using more advanced tech which does not need old fashioned rocket technology. Think about it,- it could explain a lot of unanswered questions.
So, Apollo 18 may actually be a coded attempt to release info or it could be a deliberate attempt to bury the possibly genuine Apollo 20 story under a silly sci-fi film with the usual puerile plot lines.

MikeT

    admin · February 6, 2015 at 09:44

    Dear Mike, thanks for you comments. Have a look at Vandenburg AFB on Google Earth, where are the remains of the facility needed to assemble or launch a Saturn 5? I’m sorry to say there was no real Apollo 20 mission launched from there (or anywhere else)!

      MikeT · February 7, 2015 at 16:50

      Dear Admin,

      Why on Earth would I want to do that, 40 years after the possible event ? Surely that is enough time to clear away any damning evidence, even a VAB ?
      If Apollo 20 is a hoax you have to ask what is the motive ? Why would anyone bother with such a hoax ? The presented evidence in the form of films from inside the Lunar Module are very difficult to forge I believe. There is a sort of rugged and authentic feel to the film which is of reasonable quality and consistent with the era. Rutledge’s testimony has not been disputed or disproven and remains intriguing.
      There is also a film of a lunar city and other ruins in some versions which are similarly intriguing. There is plenty of evidence that many of the lunar reconnaisance photos from earliest orbiters have been airbrushed to remove items that would be difficult to explain. If there is evidence on the Moon of an earlier Earth based civilisation or even an alien one then do you think that the US and other governments would tell us about it ? My guess is, no way. It would be too shocking and would upset the whole apple cart. It will have to wait until the world has changed dramatically and people would be happy to accept the truth instead of the usual daily dose of brainwashing from the mainstream media.

      MikeT

        admin · February 9, 2015 at 10:50

        Dear Mike, I have added a short movie to the article exposing the fakery of the Apollo 20 video. Have a look at it and see what you think.

      Dude · November 10, 2015 at 05:15

      The Remnants are there and the three large launch areas you could see from Surf Beach are gone, but some of the facilities are still there. You can see this on Google.

      Those facilities were south of Ocean Blvd just where it runs out Tee’s off at the ocean of Surf Beach which is Lompoc, Ca. Follow Ocean Blvd. from Lompoc City, west towards the ocean. Once at the beach the facilities are south of Ocean Blvd.

      You can’t drive south of Surf Beach parking as the road is blocked.
      This is considered ” off ” base and there use to be signs everywhere for NASA. Up until around 1980 when we moved from Lompoc.

      Vandenberg Base is North of Surf Beach, has its own launch facilities on the base itself. The facilities on base were NOT NASA.

      Massive trucks use to use roads near there and Ocean Blvd. would be gated when there was activity or launches. There is still a rail system there.
      Saturn V could easily been transported via Freight to port then by rail.

      Even if there was or was not an Apollo 18-20 to the moon, these birds did indeed fly from the west coast and were a hell of a show to watch the launches and sadly the loss of one too. You had to have been there and seen with your own eyes and the talk for weeks from everyone around. It was quite something.
      The Saturn V was slow lift off, loud, violently shuck the piss outta everything around, and got everybodys attention.

      Dude

        admin · November 10, 2015 at 11:27

        Dear Dude, thanks for your comments. I am sorry to say that you are probably mistaken. I don’t doubt that heavy rockets were and are launched from Vandenberg but I would need fantastically convincing evidence before I accept that any of them were Saturn 5s. You are severely underestimating the logistics of moving Saturn 5 stages from the east of the USA to the west coast (did the barges have to go through the Panama canal?) and of assembling a 111 m tall rocket (especially without a Vehicle Assembly Building like the one in Florida).

friend to the fae · December 17, 2014 at 15:54

we have been exploring all the planets in our solar system. with todays tech. maned missions are obsolet and would be considered careless. what makes you think nassa hasnt been studying the moon 4 the last 40 yrs. the space race was never about who got there first. it was about who could accesss alien tech. first. money is no object if your the one who prints it.

Dude · November 2, 2014 at 15:11

Apollo 18 and 20 flew from Vandenberg in 76. 19 failed and blew up over the beach. The beach smoldered for over a month. These were Saturn V with USAF on the side. They had command module and capsule on top. The son of the moon buggy inventor was going to school with us on base. Rather strange the moon buggy guy was on the west coast for an extended stay don’t you think ? We all talked about our Dads, asked what they did. The Saturn V birds flew and yes the facilities were quite large and were built under the guises of the coming Space Shuttle Program, NOT. They built the shuttle facilities off the Apollo facilities. Just a conversion is all. When the Saturn V’s flew, we were told they were Atlas 2 and that we would never see one fly again, and that was winter of 1976, marking that as Apollo 20. To this day, pops will never admit to the knowing of the program, will keep his oath till he passes.

Also, the exploding Apollo 19 has no record of accident. Keep in mind, a rocket came down on base housing about a decade before that, so it was huge in conversation circles, it also resulted in the loss of a base commander and a couple more service men, who were trapped by the fire caused by the debri field on the beach and inland. They had merely went to observe the debri site and were over come by flames. No record of this exists today, at least in my searches. I was a teenager living on base in those days, and what an awesome base it was compared to others I grew up on. We were an awesome nation, strong and proud. What a great time in our lives to have lived there, and experienced the things we did. Being that I lived there in the right time period, saw many launches of different rockets as well, but none stood out like the massive Saturn V earthquake maker did. I knew my rockets at an early age, and was fascinated by the Apollo missions as all us kids were growing up then. Even when I asked my dad if the launch had astronauts on them, he smiled and said no. He said it was just a big missile. Hey, the moon buggy kids dad was strange enough for a base of such that we were.

Was the Base commander allowed to ride along on the fatal Apollo 19 ? So many questions, so few answers. Also to a comment above, could the Gov secretly build, hide funds for such a project ? Really ? You had doubts ? There are mounting debts that go to such, and we may never know of all of them, but in my opinion, I believe there are many projects with funding in secret, and some for good reason I’m sure, some, overly covered than needed. I believe Apollo 18, 19 and 20 happened, I hope someday soon that we are allowed to know. Humanity, modern humanity for that point, is ready to know the “in the know”. God Speed to all our space jockies, known and unknown, you are all Hero. RIP those who sacrificed the greatest in the name of space ! God Bless America.

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    admin · November 3, 2014 at 21:15

    What a marvelous story! Alas, without evidence, a story is all it can be.

      Eric · April 4, 2019 at 22:32

      Youre kind of a donkey (edited by new admin for bad language 😉 ) aren’t you ADMIN…If you really believe there were not missions hidden from the public or masqueraded as something else then you my friend are the biggest fool of all. Use common sense.

      Do you really believe one man shot Kennedy? Do you believe that 2 planes brought down the twin towers? Instead of taking everything in life at face value…take a step back and look at the broader picture.

      You just might get cold chills down your spine after what you see.

michael dan wonsower · October 14, 2014 at 03:52

I believe the truth about the “Lost Apollo Missions” is that they ended with Apollo 17. What ever we found their? Would not let us come back. Not right then. We had to develop the technology to combat it, which is why the disclosure of the truth has become a Generational issue, keeping it hidden until the proper time and place for the completion of an agenda.

    admin · October 14, 2014 at 13:49

    You seem to to think the Apollo missions were cancelled abruptly and under mysterious circumstances. How they ended is a matter of public record. In response to a sharp cut to its budget in 1967,NASA cancelled Saturn 5 production in August 1968, 11 months before Apollo 11, so there could only have been three more missions anyway. Then the last three missions were cancelled in January to September 1970 again in response to a reduced budget for NASA.

    It was just earthly politics I’m afraid.

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Cwill · April 21, 2014 at 04:44

Let me put my .02, as a former visual effects supervisor of Model effects. It would not be impossible to do a convincing fake moon landings using 1960s VFX tech.
Oddly enough i helped plan a MTV spoof faking the moon landings in the desert in the 90s.
Now Apollo 18 was an ingenious idea ,which ultimatley fell flat. some of the faked footage was high caliber, but the premise and the drama was thin( blair witch- boo!)
A wasted opportunity.
My take is that we werent ready ,and faked portions of space flight, furthermore we encountered “territorial” extra-terrestrials and their outpost bases, and were warned off in no uncertain terms!
Legendary astronaut Gordo Cooper in his book, describes a ufo type ship hovering near to him at white sands test site in the 1960s.
They mentally communicated to Cooper -Dont touch the craft, or you will die.
-If they can hover and communicate there, why would nt they have a presence on the moon?
I also assert that the reversed ET tech became useful in the 70s and certain personnel travel in secret at least interplanetarily.
Can I prove it in a court of law -no. but the death bed admissions of so many persons “in the know” have allowed me to construct a model of what probably is.
What the ultimate goal is ? now thats the big question.

    admin · April 22, 2014 at 06:58

    Thanks for your comments. I would just like to point out Gordon Cooper’s book Leap of Faith contains his views on UFOs but does not describe him witnessing an alien spacecraft at White Sands or receiving telepathic messages from it. I have no idea why you would think it does. See Astronauts, Aeroplanes and UFOs for more on Cooper and UFOs.

unkown · March 26, 2014 at 15:31

many the gov. just messed with some unknown life that they were afraid off or they might be going in secret to prevent suspicions of what is really going on up there that people must not know of

George · January 9, 2014 at 12:10

All the comments are interesting. Talking first hand 10% of what the government tell you on these matters is true.

kollin jouney · January 3, 2014 at 19:57

if you read my previous comment you may also know that there are proven facts keeping the whole apollo 18 thing under control but there are the few that try to keep everyone believing that it is in fact a hoax but i believe that what nasa says is probably for a good cause they probably weren’t planning on a bunch of talk about a hoax either i think that we should all just put it behind us and let the future take us where it will years and years are to come with which we are still in debt but after that surely we will continue our nasa funding

gman · January 3, 2014 at 18:35

so ive been doing some research, and its kinda funny how its been 40 years since we have last been on the moon. why all the frequent mission then all of a sudden stop? and dont use budget cuts as an excuse cause the US has no problem spending money they dont have, like they are still doing to this day. our technology has no doubt atleast tripled since the 70’s and we are more than able to walk on the moon even if neil armstrong did or didnt in his mission. the government has done alot of stuff without the general public knowing. and as in previous comments there are plenty of coastal islands which can discretely launch secret missions to wherever. they still go up to the multinational space station currently in orbit around earth. and about a reference the german uboats reflecting radar signals. you do know that hitler believed in aliens. he had stations all over the world trying to find all the UFO objects he could get his hands on. some of the stuff he was working on was way ahead of his time. look up project bell which was a conspiracy project based off trying to literately teleport physical objects from one place to another and from reports it was a success. or trying to make his soldiers invisible with the help of chemicals not found on earth which from declassified reports was also a success and look at the US for example and their Philadelphia Experiment. that alone has some wicked shit in it that defies the laws of physics. trying to cloak an entire destroyer. which was also a success but not with the expected outcome. there are loads of experiments that government has been working on that really raises alot of questions as to what their real goal is.

Martin · December 9, 2013 at 02:59

I would like to leave a comment for every each other comments that i find them interesting, where to start, moon landing hoax? Why we dont go on moon anymore? Well did you know that there is Nasa website available on google these days, and no astronauts from all over the world even French and others not so famous country are and will go to moon every year few times, we visit it from many reasons not to explore it, but to fix satellites or maybe place a telescope isnt it hard for you to say that people arent going or will go to moon anymore cause that isnt the truth people are and will go there is just a few million dolars to spend and you can go there on a few days. The fact that i wanted to say is that people not just go to the moon they are going on expeditions on every each planet in our NOT solar system but every each planet in our galaxy…. People just wouldnt know about that things because everytime you think oh i could see them the newspaper would tell me, it would get leaked, sadly it cant get leaked its secret, exactly dont know why but one thing for sure mankind is despretly needs to survive in these dangeours universe cause youl never know what hit ya ? And then i have question What is exactly a dark side of the moon, isnt moon rotating also around earth and around our Sun? So how come moon keeps spinning and we cant see something on his dark side?

    admin · December 9, 2013 at 10:47

    What is exactly a dark side of the moon, isnt moon rotating also around earth and around our Sun? So how come moon keeps spinning and we cant see something on his dark side?

    There isn’t a darkside to the Moon, that would be impossible. As you say, the Earth is moving around the Sun and the Moon is moving around the Sun, so every part of the Moon gets exposed to sunlight. We only see one side of the Moon from the Earth because its rotation around the Earth and its rotation on its axis are synchronised, there is an animation illustrating this here. Note that this is not unusual, it’s due to the phenomenon of tidal-locking, every moon in the Solar System behaves the same way with respect to its primary.

G · September 21, 2013 at 05:31

A very common question asked here…. “if we really went to the moon, why did we stop going …” and/or “…why have we not returned?…”

I think Spike said it best, although very wordy… “Spike
Posted January 10, 2013 at 10:00 AM …”
Put much more simply, there is just no valid reason to spend all that cash to go visit a dead rock that we can learn little from.

LOL

Good Job Admin, Thanks

BTW, the movie was not so good. Just barley interesting enough to reach the end.

If you wanna see a good space adventure based on REAL facts, go watch Apollo 13, starring Tom Hanks. I lived through that saga live, via radio and TV news reports daily.

Yes, it could have been a hoax just as the entire Apollo program could have been a hoax, but if it was, it was incredibly elaborate!!!

brian b · June 28, 2013 at 06:15

I thought it was fake too until I started researching it. there are legal top secret documents from nasa clearly stating that there was an Apollo 18 mission. and on it, it talks about the missions and says that they had canceled it then goes on to say that they changed it to only being postponed. and they blacked out a lot of it so clearly there trying to hide something so why would they just now tell us about it if they wouldn’t 50 years ago. After seeing those papers I have no doubt in my mind.

    admin · June 28, 2013 at 08:33

    Thanks, can you add a link to these documents as they will obviously add a lot to the Astronauts, Aeroplanes and UFOs article.

      Tre · July 30, 2013 at 22:48

      I think someone’s been playin too much Call of Duty..

MzMeekaD · April 12, 2013 at 03:55

Apollo 18 is fake…it may be based on fact but it is only a movie.
I am just now seeing this blog…I think the reason there hasn’t been anymore missions to the moon is because there is no need to go back…they studied it, found out what it is made of and that it is not habitable and decided that it was time to move on to bigger better things like Mars and other galaxies. I myself believe in aliens and I also believe they been to earth and are watching us, not to learn about us but waiting for us to destroy ourselves so they won’t have to. I do not claim to be an expert about anything so you can take this with a grain of salt…you have your beliefs and I have mine…I will say that I have been told by a credible source that Wright Patterson AFB is where the UFOs are at …I can’t prove or disprove this but I am definitely looking into it.

Kirk · January 24, 2013 at 01:10

Thank you for replies admin.
Just on the telescope reply can hubble see the moon surface in good detail or is too close and only set up for objects outside our galaxy?
Regards
Kirk

    admin · January 24, 2013 at 12:06

    The Hubble Space Telescope rarely looks at the Moon as that’s not really using it to best advantage (anyway we have lots of close up images of the Moon’s surface already), the HST was intended more for studying galaxies and nebulae (these objects may be sometimes millions of light years away but are still hundreds of thousands of light years across, making them much easier to resolve than a 5m wide Lunar Module at 380 000 km). Some HST images of the Moon are at http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/photo_gallery/photogallery-moon.html .

Kirk · January 18, 2013 at 22:51

Just a couple more things as the moon is our closest celeistal body can anyone explain
the comment that buzz aldrin had seen alien craft on the moon in a crater?
did he actually say that?
Also he was told by aliens to f*** off the moon thats why we aint been back!
And that the so called house looking object on the moon is not just a piece of rock?
I dont know why we are so hooked on moon fiction when at this moment in time kepler is finding earth like planets millions of light years away.
By the way the film was good i enjoyed it a very good sci fi with tense moments.
Filmed on a budjet with not the run of the mill actors but really liked it made you think for a bit about the whole space race back in the seventies and what brave men they where knowing it could be a one way ticket.

one nil to the Admin

Kirk

Kirk · January 18, 2013 at 22:28

I think admin has done a great job answering all that dribble.
Just one bit of dribble from me is cant you see the lunar rover and other stuff from manned missions just by using a powerful telescope pointed at the moon????
Can anyone do that just to shut up people who think we never went.

Well done Admin

Kirk

    admin · January 21, 2013 at 12:34

    That’s a common suggestion but it just isn’t possible. The minimum size of object that can be resolved with a given telescope at a given distance is worked using a formula called the Rayleigh Criterion which is very well established science (a couple of centuries old).

    I believe the biggest single telescope operating at the moment is the Gran Telescopio Canarias, which has a 10.4 m mirror. At the distance of the Moon (380 000km), the GTC cannot see features less than 100 m across which is way larger than the base of a Lunar Module (about 5m).

    To see small features on the Moon you need to get up close, hence missions like the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter.

Jon Luc Picard · January 14, 2013 at 05:47

Yesterday I was on the Enterprise in ten forward drinking Romulan Ale and eating Klingon Blood Pie with Jordi La Forge.

Spike · January 10, 2013 at 10:00

I must admit, ADMIN you have done an amazing job of fighting off the comments directed at you and answering the questions posted by the individuals who frequent this forum.

In response to the individuals who state that there is no proof of anyone going to the moon, I suggest you go to your local Observatory during an ‘open day’ or, during a public invite event and request that they prove to you that people landed on the Moon.

They will be able to bounce a laser off the landing site of Apollo 17, if I recall correctly, and show you that we still have equipment up there on the Moon’s surface.

In relation to us not going back to the Moon, the US Government, UK Government and Russian Government have identified and stated that the entire world is going through a stage of Financial crisis. This is brought on by the incidents surrounding events over the past 15-20 years and have caused companies which would usually support or assist in the deployment of Space Missions to have their fundings cut or shortened to a state where they cannot action a viable research pattern towards progressing in Lunar Based Missions.

NASA and the associated offices have no real interest in going back to the Moon for further study, due to the financial cost that this will imply for a simple deployment of 4 men towards a rock nearly 350,000 Kilometres away. Lets put it into perspective, to travel from Houston Texas to Sydney Australia, it costs an average airline company nearly 110,000 USD to fly 300 people that distance. That is only 14,000 kilometres, to fly the same distance required to travel from the Earth to the Moon, you would have to do that trip 25 times – costing a normal airline 2,750,000 USD in the process.

That is for atmospheric flight costs, to carry out ‘stellar travel’ between the Earth and the Moon, you would need specialist equipment – as you would understand – you would need to mathematically work out exact trajectories, re-task satellites, plot departure routes out of our atmosphere into space, be able to break the speeds required to pass the gravitational pull of the planet which is 17,000 MPH – at this speed it would take a 4 man task force 28 days to reach the moon – this is FINANCIALLY unacceptable and NOT viable to governments as they find no requirement to revisit the rock. Originally the Artemis Project was said to cost the US Government 100 BILLION USD to get a manned mission to the moon, countries DO NOT have a requirement to spend that sort of funding to send a man to the moon to research something which has no benefit to the country who sent him there anymore. It was a mission to show that it could be done AT ALL COSTS and it succeeded.

Again, Admin, lots of respect for your valiant defence and I hope people listen to you more now.

Take care,

Spike

Joe · December 6, 2012 at 17:43

I don’t believe NASA, but i definitely don’t believe the movie either. It does however leave you with one question… Why DID we stop going to the moon?

For the admin…i have a question about NASA’S lies for you….

In the 80’s I watched the news one day and a spokesperson for NASA said something close to, “We have found an object that is orbiting our sun that is beyond pluto.” We are calling it a planet and we have no other name for it, for now we are calling it planet x.”

I remember this clearly. after this he said no further comments at this time and walked away from reporters… Now… then some years later they say that there is nothing beyond pluto orbiting our sun and years after that we hear of several many comets that are flying in wide patterns around the sun….
So what is it? a planet? a comet? and how fast is it approaching?

Some australlian guy who claimed to have worked in an observatory for NASA says that it is a comet and it is comming fast…. also our local news a few months ago said this time next year there will be a comet lighting up our skky that will be 10 times brighter than the moon…. dont you think an object close enough to be that bright would cause gravity to shift the earths plates, spew lava from volcanoes, cause gaseous poisens to heat the water and kill massive amounts of fish, of wait all these things ARE happening… whats really going on?

emily · August 14, 2012 at 21:23

I STILL WILL NEVER FORGET ABOUT APOLLO 18 I SEEN THE MOVIE AN TRIED TO GO TO LUNARTRUTH BUT THE WEDSITE IS BLOCKED THATS OKAY BECAUSE I ALREADY KNOW THE TRUTH AND I DONT CARE WHAT THE WHOLE WORLD SAYS ABOUT IT I KNOW

    admin · August 15, 2012 at 07:04

    Dear Emily, http://www.lunartruth.com is still accessible. Please note that its content is a fiction to promote the Apollo 18 movie which is of course fiction too.

Vincent · August 12, 2012 at 06:13

This is what happens when people keep secrets. It’s very difficult to trust the people you are told to trust. The question about Hollywood is that it reflects reality, but creates reality by distortion unless it’s a documentary. Which in this case it wasn’t, but even documentaries have a specific audience to get it’s message accross. Will we ever know the truth about these so uncalled missions and reasons for not going back to the moon? That’s like getting the truth about JFK’s Assasination. It’s become an enigma. There are always two sides to a story.
Even if someone here did actualy have proof about what happen, it would have the same result, unless it took place via-live nationaly and internationaly by all communities of science and non-scientific specialties. It seemed very real to me at first untill a certain clip in the film you could see that special effects was involved.
No one knows if there isn’t life out there or if there is. We search and that’s the only way to find out, and it doesn’t matter by whom. To believe that we are the only intelligent life out there and I mean like ourselves in Space is insane.
The Hubble Telescope has revealed things about our Universe that only raises more questions and things that continue to defy what we call physics. We know that there are over 100billion galaxies in just in one area in space the size of point of a pin, and to know that the age of space is wow, how old? Earth is still in it’s womb for heaven sake compared to everything else out there.
I believe my self knowing and studying psychology that many people wouldn’t know how to react if life out there existed. I say many not all.
However, I do like the film fake or not, causes it raises many question on what NASA should really be doing. Me I have know questions about what they are doing since I visit their site alot to see what kinds of projects they are doing. If they do anything Top Secret and people die in these missions I’m all for it, as long as it wasn’t against their will, and NASA should be responsible. I don’t question their integrity, but there are times people will violate what’s right and what isn’t.
To the people who question about the First Landing on the Moon. I don’t know, I wasn’t there to see it on TV., even though i had seen the footage. But, if you know anything about space and astronomy you will not see stars from the moon that is a fact. I believe it was real, but that’s what I believe, because I believe the pilots who told their story.
Could there be some kind of creature living on the moon though it has no atmosphere? I don’t know? I’m not going to be the one saying no or the one saying yes. I’ll be the first to say it’s possible, because we wouldn’t really know the anatomy of such a creature to be able to live in such a hostile environment such as the moon. Just, because we can’t doesn’t mean something else can’t. We are finding creatures in the sea living in or next to volcanic heat in currents on the oceans’ floor. So, you never know.
I find it funny when we try to solve things that have no explanation, and we haven’t even solved human life or evolution. It would be a sad event if humans do become extinct, but I’d like to think we won’t.

Had · February 9, 2012 at 05:42

Ha all u fighting over appollo 18 movie but there’s credits at the end so it must be fictional or the men who went to the moon were staring in a movie they did not know was gonna be a movie and when did Russia get to the moon

    Joe · April 6, 2012 at 20:36

    How come http://www.lunartruth.com is fake? Is all this a hoax or is it real and the government doesn’t want us to know about a alien society that is watching us. Tell me that Admin.

tim · February 6, 2012 at 20:43

look i study this and foun evidence like a news article for the santa barbra 1974 by robert cae claming that with a picture there was a lunch and the towns people that heard it went outside and saw it witch nasa said nothing about and when they were questiond QUESTIONS WERE DENIED……………………………………..

Ds · January 15, 2012 at 10:53

Hi. Admin this is not a shot at any thing you have said… but iv read somewhere that on September 1974 there was an unexplained launch (forgive me for my lack of information) some were in I belive Texas were there were several eyewitness account of seeing a shuttle taking off, and when asked of NASA to explain they said they had not launched any shuttles. I’m just asking you to shed some light on this information as I’m sure you no more about it than I. Please let me know of your findings

john · January 15, 2012 at 02:58

ALEINS ARE REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    emily · August 14, 2012 at 21:17

    the government doesnt want us to know about the exact truth of what happend up there……people call it aliens!? those are actually demonic spirits on the moon if you are christian and you know about the bible you will get my point when i say that…..aliens are not real……there actually demons, all these lies an secrets the government is making up! *shakin my head* (smh) i did went to lunartruth.com the government doesnt want us to know the truth…..

    emily · August 14, 2012 at 21:20

    ALIENS ARE NOT REAL!!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE BELIEVIN IN ALIENS ITS A WHOLE LIEE!!! THERE ARE ACTUALLY SPIRITS ON THE MOON AND OTHER PLANETS…..THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO STOP ALL THESE LIES AND SPEAK OUT THE TRUTH OF WHAT IN THE HELLL REALLY HAPPEND TO APOLLO 18 AND STOP MAKING UP (nonsense)!

    (Edited for language – Admin)

      gman · January 3, 2014 at 18:20

      so youve traveled to every inch of the infinite space outside of our galaxy to prove this? i think you are stupid for thinking that we are the only ones living in this world. its hard to believe that with all that space all that darkness around us all the stars in the sky that not one part has a planet just far enough to support life. hell even some parts of mars have temperature readings of -30 degrees. alaska would laugh at that temperature. even where i live in ohio it can get up to -20 with wind chill. and there could be life forms out there that could live in colder or much hotter climates. because there are animals on earth including humans that can survive in that.

anonim@anonim.com · January 11, 2012 at 20:39

DEAREST reader and visitor,

I do too curious bout these topic. I read it carefully, and this blog successfully caught my interest to respond.

I’d like to ask to ADMIN here:

as you believe that there were men landed on the moon, you’re not full of evidence too, you just choose to believe it. right? and the basic question is the same? why don’t they go to the moon again?

politics and lack of money? (do you have evidence bout the reason and where/when exactly this statement publish?)

and you said “Computer power doesn’t make a difference. The problem is lifting a heavy weight (crew plus life support and heatshield) to lunar orbit with a rocket. The technology of rocketry has not changed in fifty years” (what??) two statement from me: 1. Technology does develop as computers more powerful. of course it will affect the moon mission (if there is one) much more effective and easy. 2.Rocketry has not changed? this is bias. –i agree it’s not change, so that’s why they can’t go there again as they are never been, cause the rocketry tech still not providing the requirement ever. –not agree, i doubt it’s not developed in 50 years. c’mon.. what is your evidence beside what they tell you as you say again to us the visitor.

anyway, you caught many people interest that’s only good result of this blog. but, I don’t get any clarity and acknowledge more then before like i expected when i start reading the blog.

For me, you simply lack of knowledge as the visitors. you’re the professional, and hey, ;

Believer should have evidence and enlighten others with it.

Non-believer just asking question cause they want to believe as you are or simply find the truth. that just the law.

I argue and asking questions because of many visitors here have the same problems..non-clarity and the way you answer people question.

And the movie is only a movie. that’s true. apollo missions is only missions. both is SF.

have a nice life

    admin · January 11, 2012 at 21:50

    Hi, thanks for your comments.

    as you believe that there were men landed on the moon, you’re not full of evidence too, you just choose to believe it. right?

    Why shouldn’t I believe the Apollo Moon landings happened? They were just another historical event. Why should any one not accept they happened? I would need some extraordinary evidence.

    politics and lack of money? (do you have evidence bout the reason and where/when exactly this statement publish?)

    Sorry but you need to go back and read the article again.

    Technology does develop as computers more powerful. of course it will affect the moon mission (if there is one) much more effective and easy.

    I actually agree with that, but increased computing power would not really make that big a difference to sending a mission to the Moon and back. Launching stuff into space is very expensive. If you really want to research this look at how much Arianespace, the world’s leading provider of commercial launch services charges to put a kilogramme into low Earth orbit. Multiply that by the weight of a manned spacecraft, the fuel needed to send it to the Moon, land on the Moon, blast off back to Earth again and you’ll be shocked! (And that’s grossly simplified, I’m ignoring what you need to pay the salaries of thousands of technicians and so much more.)

    i agree it’s not change, so that’s why they can’t go there again as they are never been, cause the rocketry tech still not providing the requirement ever. –not agree, i doubt it’s not developed in 50 years. c’mon.. what is your evidence beside what they tell you as you say again to us the visitor.

    I’m not sure what you are trying to say here, can you rephrase it?

    For me, you simply lack of knowledge as the visitors. you’re the professional, and hey, ;

    Believer should have evidence and enlighten others with it.

    Non-believer just asking question cause they want to believe as you are or simply find the truth. that just the law.

    Again, I’m not really sure what you are trying to say. If you are disappointed that I’m not supplying evidence to prove the reality of the Apollo missions to you, well that’s too broad a requirement. Imagine someone asked you to prove that there really had been a war between the UK and Argentina in 1982, how would you do it?

    non-clarity and the way you answer people question

    I’m sorry but I think I have been very clear.

    And the movie is only a movie. that’s true. apollo missions is only missions. both is SF.

    No, the apollo missions were real.

    have a nice life

    You too!

Trekkie · January 9, 2012 at 13:20

Good film – very entertaining but don’t forget that old killer – “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence”. Who knows what’s out there that NASA is not telling us about.

ck · January 9, 2012 at 03:26

if they wanted me to go to the moon i would

PS · January 3, 2012 at 04:30

and yes I did watch the Movie and knowing that it is fiction it does get one thinking about how manipulative our own Government can be in real life and how lives have been lost, exposed,scapegoated patsey’d and sacrificed for the “GREATER GOOD”

K · January 2, 2012 at 14:13

I have just seen the film and I have to admit that I was not keen on watching it at first but found it very interesting. I am sure that we are not the only ones, there has to be other life forms out there. What I don’t get is if it is true, why hush it up? Mmm it does make you stop and think……

sioux · January 2, 2012 at 01:24

just saw this movie, just finished reading all the posts…so what is the point in this movie was there or wasn’t there a landing from the Russians on the moon, did the states or Russia land first. I find this movie fascinating, not sure why maybe out of curiosity, like others have said on here NASA has the funds to do more exploring in space. I prefer they don’t, It seems to me that everytime they do, they screw up the atmosphere. I’m not sure I beleive in aliens, highly unlikely but the secrets that alot of these men have taken to thier graves is mindblowing.

caroline · January 1, 2012 at 09:16

Hahahahah its. So funny how the admin. Keep defending the gov u either on payroll or blind as bat. Goverment always lies no money for nasa?? Well they got billions funding a ghost chasing war!! One or. Maybe 2 days off of that war should. Balance the books. A bit. Hahahahaa its funny how ppl reccur to insults or give me proof or be more specific or can u talk more about this or that?? Gimme a break! Just so funny and sad. Wether we like it or not admit to it or not there is so much we will never know all that’s important is to be standing on the right side. Of the fire line when the stuff hits the fan! Goverment has nver lied ppl open your eyes! This. Is the land of the blind I. Mean the free and broke mean brave dammit this keybord! Oh say can u see? Proof its true how about prove its a lie? I. Have seen a lot in my life never believe the official story everyone lies everyone has an agenda… it doent have to be important big or even real to. The person that has it its as escential as the. Air we breath…. well hope u guys at least laugh.

(Editted slightly for language- ADMIN)

Frank · December 31, 2011 at 17:19

I’m old enough to have seen most of the missions. Believers and nonbelievers both have interesting points of view, atleast some. If we ever give up on mars a movie will be out about the alien life forms there and we’ll be back at it again. For there to be a good movie they have to make it real in a sense which will always carry suspicion doubt and controversy. At the present we haven’t stepped on mars so people understand the movies of alien life there is just that a movie. I also believe in “If I can’t see it its not true” but science has proved in many ways over seeing is not always the only way to believe. I have to hand it to the admin for keeping his cool with all the posters, you all made a good read

philip · December 27, 2011 at 23:27

nasa always claim it cost too much to go to the moon but that is bull, computers are cheaper and more powerful today than ever before, and companies like microsoft and other multi billion pound / dollar would get together to fund it, after all you build a ship that can reach the moon and get back, how much would people pay to visit the moon, not to mension the other reasons to go there, we waste billions on nukes we`ll never hope to use, i`m sure nasa could return to the moon if it wanted to, the real question is who is stopping them and WHY?

    admin · January 3, 2012 at 15:55

    Computer power doesn’t make a difference. The problem is lifting a heavy weight (crew plus life support and heatshield) to lunar orbit with a rocket. The technology of rocketry has not changed in fifty years. I repeat that it is politics and lack of money that has prevented further lunar missions.

    VET · January 16, 2012 at 15:08

    WHAT ABOUT THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THEY USE TO LAND OR CRASH SPACE VEHICLES INTO COMETS AND PLANETS TO SEE WHAT IS THERE OR TO WATCH IT EXPLODE…..NOW TO ME THAT IS STUPID AND WASTEFUL. IF ALL THIS COSTS THE GOVERNMENT (WHICH IS REALLY THE TAX PAYERS)TO MUCH MONEY, THEN WHY ARE WE SPENDING ALL THIS MONEY WE DONT HAVE FOR SPACE EXPLORATION ON WARS THAT WE HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING IN? JUST AS MOST PEOPLE BELIEVE, OUR GOVERNMENT IS SECRETIVE IN ALL THAT THEY DO. I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND WHY THEY CANT BE HONEST WITH THE PUBLIC ON WHATS GOING ON IN OUR WORLD, (AFTERALL WE ARE ACTUALLY THEIR BOSSES)…IF THERE IS SOME KIND OF LIFE OUT THERE IN OUR UNIVERSE, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW….THAT MEANS THAT THERE COULD BE A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE OTHER THAN HERE ON THIS CRAZY MIXED UP PLANET.

Paul · November 18, 2011 at 03:00

i gotta laugh, at some of Admins comments on this page. They remind me of some funny episodes in history. Like when people bury their head in the sand and because they think they have a certain power, over other people they think that their outlook on everything is 100% right. These people seem to forget the idea that the human eye and brain do not always see and process the material that is right in front of them. In the case of the eye, i offer you the various colours in the spectrum of light. In the case of the brain, i offer some people who have been famous and famous for not seeing what was right there for all to see.

SADDAM’S RIGHT HAND MAN WHEN IRAQ WAS BURNING, HITLER WHEN TOLD OF GERMANY’S IMMINENT FALL, THE US WHEN THE VEIT CON WAS GONNA WIN THE WAR, IF YOU LOOK THROUGH HISTORY THEN, THERE ARE A GREAT NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO DENY OR DON’T SEE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR FACE. I SUGGEST YOU RESEARCH AND LISTEN TO THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON BY PINK FLOYD, Admin.

then come and talk with me for a while

    admin · November 18, 2011 at 09:26

    Hi, thanks for your comments. So what should I be listening for in the Dark side of the Moon?

chris · November 16, 2011 at 16:31

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1772240/fullcredits

GT · November 11, 2011 at 02:03

Has everyone caught up on what Dr Edgar Mitchell from the Apollo 14 mission has said.

You may be surprised to learn what he knows.

    admin · November 11, 2011 at 10:33

    Hi, I’m not sure what you mean. Are you saying that Mitchell claims there were additional Moon missions after Apollo 17?

      brian b · June 28, 2013 at 06:20

      someone interviewed him and they asked him if he thought there were extreterestrial life and he said yes. then they asked why he thought that and he said “I don’t think that I know that” and “the few people that have been to the moon know and im not scared to talk about it.”

        admin · June 28, 2013 at 08:30

        Thanks but can you add a link to the interview where these quotes come from?

h · October 24, 2011 at 12:24

if there was landing on moon
so why they not going to the moon again ??
= how many times we land on moon?
and how many times every one see they land on the moon !
so ?
all Hollywood movies aim the moon!
someone tell me why?

    admin · November 2, 2011 at 10:07

    if there was landing on moon
    so why they not going to the moon again ??

    It costs a lot of money and no government is interested in sending people to the Moon at present.

    how many times we land on moon?

    Six Apollo missions landed on the Moon, 12 robot probes have successfully landed there too.

    and how many times every one see they land on the moon !
    so ?

    I’m sorry but I don’t understand, please clarify what you are asking.

    all Hollywood movies aim the moon!
    someone tell me why?

    Again, I don’t understand your question, please rephrase it.

      C-dubbin · January 8, 2012 at 04:50

      Haha this argument is like the truth of the bible. You nor none of us was privyed to see or be there to say it is or isn’t the real truth! Unless you were DIRECTLY involved in these affairs you cannot say with certainty that it is what you say it is. Your words to me and everybody else are as credible as the next man. You have a lot of facts but stated “FACTS” are not always correct. The truth is the government does hide certain issues! Look how people react when they say a bad storm is coming….complete pandemonium! Now imagine the government outright telling people there really are extraterrestrial life forms out there. People would go bananas! So unless you have insider information your “facts” are the same as saying which religion is the right one:) Look at operation gun runner…there are complete FACTS that prove they ( the gov.) knew of there blunder and Eric Holder still denies that he received those email…that were found in HIS “inbox”! We as a race of being are so conceded and ignorant to see outside the box that most just want to just get by living for today…but some want to delve into the future! Can you explain or do you know anything about the Anunnaki?

        admin · January 9, 2012 at 09:00

        Haha this argument is like the truth of the bible. You nor none of us was privyed to see or be there to say it is or isn’t the real truth! Unless you were DIRECTLY involved in these affairs you cannot say with certainty that it is what you say it is.

        I don’t agree with you; the Apollo moonlandings must among the best- documented historical events ever, whereas we know the historical accuracy of much of the Bible is doubtful.

        Now imagine the government outright telling people there really are extraterrestrial life forms out there. People would go bananas!

        I really doubt this. Remember in 1996 when NASA announced that there were possible fossils in that Martian meteorite (which has turned out to be probably not the case), I don’t remember any panic then. Why do you think there would be a panic?

        Look at operation gun runner…

        Sorry but I’m not. This blog covers space and astronomy and that sounds rather off topic.

        Can you explain or do you know anything about the Anunnaki?

        They were gods in Sumerian mythology; today crazy people think they were aliens.

          Vincent · August 12, 2012 at 05:29

          crazy people invent Nuclear bombs that can wipe out human existance. we just proved it could be created, because we said to ourselves we our smart. For an astonomer you aren’t as bright i though you’d be. Considering the fact that there are over 100billion galaxies that we can actually get in the telescope out in space and considering the age of the universe is and to even think that we are the only intelligent life in space that can fly, have weapons, create, destroy, live and die is insane. i remember my astronomer proffesor asking a question if human life on Earth or any life on Earth is totally by accident or something else have a hand in it?
          The answer to that question there is none, because we really don’t know. We don’t have the answer that says yes it was by evolution of life in the Universe and that’s how it works or if evolution from beyond our galaxy had created us. It’s like asking the question how did all this stough in the Universe become what it is when the Universe or Space was completly empty. My question is to you astonomers is, how did it get there if it was empty? Space I beleive was never empty and the Big Bang theory is just one big event that took place in space that kind of got thing jumping along. Space evolution you could say. But, how did this stough get there if it was empty?

kezzer!!! · September 23, 2011 at 01:32

i thought the film was very poor and u find yourself waiting for someting good to happen an then 5 mins before the end it all starts, waste of time watching it. The only good thing about watching it is that it as lead me to this site and has given me an insite on the facts about the apollo space flights. Admin keep up the good work iv found your article and comments interesting 😀

matt · September 21, 2011 at 12:35

http://missioncontrolblog.org/ proper scary stuff i found on this website

    admin · September 21, 2011 at 12:42

    You do know your link is to is a fiction site to tie in with the Apollo 18 movie?

lucasb · September 12, 2011 at 03:48

Admin there’s a reason why you work where you do! Keep up the fish feeding! Everybodys aware of what’s is goin on and day by day time will tell. These type of films are designed to call our (public) bluff!

    admin · September 12, 2011 at 08:00

    These type of films are designed to call our (public) bluff!

    So no one ever makes up a movie just to entertain people then?

admin · September 6, 2011 at 13:05

I have now seen this movie, you can see what I thought it about at https://www.armaghplanet.com/blog/apollo-18-astronotes-goes-to-the-movies.html .

Bill Cook · September 6, 2011 at 02:13

At the end of the movie, they said all 3 astronauts were killed in separate air plane crashes and their bodies were never recovered. What are the odds of this happening? This in itself seems like a cover-up. Almost makes you wonder if the movie wasn’t true. Did the 3 astronauts scheduled to go in Apollo 18 die like the movie said?

    admin · September 6, 2011 at 09:20

    Hi Bill, please remember that the movie is complete fiction; watch the end credits for the names of the actors, writers and special effects people!

    The real Apollo 18’s crew would probably have been Richard Gordon (Commander), Harrison Schmitt (Lunar Module Pilot) and Vance Brand (Command Module Pilot). All three are alive. To learn more about US astronauts the NASA astronaut biography page is a useful resource.

EvolutionX · September 4, 2011 at 23:38

This is to admin. I saw a post close to the top of the comments where you state you ARE a government agent. Then found a discrepancy with one of your following posts.

admin
Posted August 18, 2011 at 9:07 PM
“I’m not a skeptic of the Apollo 18 footage because I’m a government agent, there’s nothing to be skeptical of. It’s a Hollywood movie with actors!”

Then this one where you state you ARE NOT a government agent.

admin
Posted August 27, 2011 at 6:20 PM

For the record, I am employed by Armagh Planetarium, not any government.

Please clarify this matter for me so we do not think you are completely full of BS.

Thank You.

    admin · September 5, 2011 at 10:10

    I was responding to a previous poster who said “Unless you’re part of the retired arms of CIA, FBI, Special intelligence or have any substantial proof to provide; your words are as meaningless as mine.”

    I said “I’m not a skeptic of the Apollo 18 footage because I’m a government agent, there’s nothing to be skeptical of. It’s a Hollywood movie with actors!” to deny that I work for any of those agencies (or any other for that matter), I suppose I could have expressed it better though. For the last time, I’m employed by Armagh Planetarium to write and talk about space and astronomy, see our staff page.

    admin · January 3, 2012 at 15:58

    Please read through the comments again, from the start.

      C-dubbin · January 8, 2012 at 04:28

      Ok just saw your explanation and I get it 😉 However you should have stated that you are NOT a government agent so why would that have any weight to your decision. I understand your explanation but for all those that see it and do not see your rebuttal until further in the “forum” you have to understand their stance;)

        Bryan · November 26, 2017 at 13:56

        Admin’s comment was understandable to any person with a reasonable command of the English language.
        Unfortunately, this is far from common these days.

          admin · November 30, 2017 at 15:38

          Many thanks for the support. I would like to state that no admin of this blog has been, or ever will be a government agent. We are a Planetarium, a place of learning 🙂

roby · September 4, 2011 at 22:56

I have seen apollo 18 and it realy is just a film and after a bit of reserch admin is correct wen he/she said the apollo 18 mission was canceled.But the fact is the goverment could hold a secret mission and there are forces at work that we will never understand.I have so mu evidence that the goverments keep secrets it is unreal but wen i voice these i get told am crazy.The word UFO is taken as an ET but it can be anything untill it is identified.The things on the moon in the film are not real because they are primative the stacks of evidence i have show that our world leaders are in contact and do as they are told by other worldly beings.NASA have hidden the truth from us since the begining because we wouldnt be able to handle it.There is even a breading facility for humans underneath the ground in america the location i will not say apart from america.This is because our world leaders have estimated a 80% world wide humans will die when our planet is no longer needed.I could go on all day about the proof i have but all am going too say is the people who have found the whole truth have disapeard the goverment could hide a launch from us its obvious.And why bring out this film is it because the moon is holow and rings like a bell wen struck??? We all see it everyday and suspect nothing but what is really watching us from the moon??

    stewart prow · July 4, 2012 at 18:55

    well i think we should look even closer to the facts the americans built a stelth bomber great piece of kit how though did they find the technology simple they studdied the wreckage of the alien aircraft after the roswell crash they didnt know it had landed on earth because it could not be detected

      admin · July 16, 2012 at 10:41

      There’s no need to invoke alien technology for development of the stealth aircraft. Radar absorbent materials were in use (on German U-Boat periscopes and snorkels IIRC as early as 1944), shaping airframes to avoid bouncing radar back to the transmitter was discussed in UK even earlier than that (pre-WW2). Attempts to reduce the radar signature of U-2 aircraft began in 1956 (see Dark Eagles by Curtis Peebles), building a dedicated stealth aircraft wasn’t possible until computer technology was capable of calculating a stealthy shape compatible wth aerodynamics. This was possible by the early 1970s, and the Lockheed Have Blue flew in 1977. Development of the F-117, B-2 etc followed. Stealth technology fits perfectly into Cold War military technology development with no ET assistence involved. Humans are smarter than UFO fans think!

J · September 4, 2011 at 18:32

Also, adding to my paragraph above, how the cover of Apollo 18, the line that says, “There is a reason we’ve never gone back to the moon.” And I strongly agree of that line!

J · September 4, 2011 at 18:28

To Ted, I just watched it yesterday too a little later than you but i agree with t wayyy above, i read all these comments and its pretty clear that the goverment hides a lot from us (public). they dont want us to know anything and yes the apollo18 was a good movie, just if it was real footage how would they get the videos if there was nothing launched back to step at the moon? I also agree , yes its hollywood, hollywood add a lot of stuff just to go make you watch it but i agree like someone said above that in every movie there is a fact (in some?). And admin you said in the first comments you worked for government then later you said you didnt work for government that you worked for Armagh Planetarium…? Anyways, I say goverment should tell us public stuff we dont know about, what if you (government) were in our position?

    admin · September 4, 2011 at 19:52

    When have I ever said I work for any government?

      PS · January 3, 2012 at 04:22

      I’ve read thru all of your replies and I appreciate your opinions but you should cruise through your replies especially for August 18th @9:07 pm

      “I’m not a skeptic of the Apollo 18 footage because I’m a government agent, there’s nothing to be skeptical of. It’s a Hollywood movie with actors!”
      You did indeed state that you work for the Government or I should say a Government Agent. Watch out your credibility has been compromised!

        admin · January 3, 2012 at 15:51

        You cannot be serious!

          C-dubbin · January 8, 2012 at 04:23

          Well Admin they were and are your words scroll up and look…like everyone else did and does;)

james · September 4, 2011 at 16:17

In the film apollo 18 it says the 3 astronauts died if this is true was the soon after the supposed mission and all around the same time thanks .

    admin · September 6, 2011 at 09:54

    Hi James, please remember that the movie is just a movie made up for entertainment.

    The real Apollo 18’s crew would probably have been Richard Gordon (Commander), Harrison Schmitt (Lunar Module Pilot) and Vance Brand (Command Module Pilot). All three are alive. To learn more about US astronauts the NASA astronaut biography page is a useful resource.

Ted · September 3, 2011 at 21:33

SPOILER ALERT

Just saw the movie. Loved it, but you have to suspend reality to believe it. Besides what’s mentioned here already, you would have to believe that alien beings could shape shift into rocks, then magically survive without oxygen for as long as they’ve been on the moon, then attack our boys by changing into little crabs. Then, you have to believe that they can operate a lifeless human body that was oxygen-deprived and make it speak English. Name one carbon-based life form that can do that?

CT · September 2, 2011 at 23:19

(BE WARNED: SPOILERS FOR APOLLO 18 MOVIE FOLLOW – ADMIN)

Ive recently seen Apollo 18, decent film, except you dont get to see the big evil mean alien till right to the end.

just for people like Believe dont read to much into that missioncontrol site most of its just wackos. Having said that there is some truth in it they’ve just over emphisised on it.
i wouldnt lose sleep over aliens coming to kill us because dont forget theese “facts” are based in the 1950’s to 1970’s they were UFO crazy space was a new concept of course in the back of there mind there going to consider the possibility of ET life but they would never speek out loud for it would make them look childless and stupid if they talked about “Aliens”. resulting from that the CIA and the DoD are going to keep an eye on it secretly as it could be considerd a national threat, but if they told the world there on the look out for Aliens they would be a laughing stock and the CIA would not be taken seriously.

That small bit based about the geologist saying there excitied about the rocks they found on the moon, they sure are , they get really worked up by rocks on some random beach in the middle of nowhere so of course there going to be excited about moon rocks.
Also that tat about US-USSR joint space venture to pick up a deserted Alien vesel which happend to be on the dark side of the moon, (convient, eh) is capital nonsense. They couldnt trust each other over simple earth matters from just politcal differences to whether or not to nuke each othe, so i highly doubt they would happily share an alien spaceship.
Finnaly someone somehwere would of noticed a big in your face space rocket flying in the sky, the USSR masked sending off satilights by using smoke from buring forest fires or artificial fires but the website doesant even mention that so someone would of noticed a rocket flying about.
Oh yer if big meaaan killer evil aliens lived on the moon then Richard Branson would not be allowed to do commecial space flights which a Russian comanpy actually did a few years ago for a precily sum of $20,000,000

Overall its a okay film not brilliant and has now create a new generation of wackos, considering its a pop ‘n scare movie there not meny poppy uppy bits i remeber about 3. Also the poster of the footprint next to the claw mark is misleading as there is no real huge monster.
sorry for proberly tons of typos and erros.

(Slight edits for language- ADMIN)

Riggs · September 2, 2011 at 15:23

Wow. I find interesting that people are so caught up in what they can not explain that they will believe anything in a movie that has not even come out yet.

Lets look at this for what it really is…when there is a chance for people to make money,(Like Hollywood movie producers)they will say, do and lie, opps, pardon me I mean “fabricate” whatever they want. The movie is just a movie, it is entertainment. The Producers want you to spend your money and see their movie.

Am I the only one that can see it for what it really is. . . Now with that said, I am looking forward to seeing this movie because I think the story is fascinating, just like when I read the Lord of the Rings as a high school student in the 1970’s. I enjoyed the story in the books, but did not think that there were really, Dwarves, Elves and Goblins.(some people do)

Finally. Yes it’s true, the government keeps things from us, but after reading some of the things written here,(and on other Blogs) I do not blame them one bit. Ignorence can be an evil thing.

    mayo · September 4, 2011 at 05:52

    fyi, i watched this movie for free at home before it came out. its not ignorant to believe something that no one else might not believe, get your facts right.im assuming your the type who rather get lied to , or get things hidden from then know the real truth

Believe · September 2, 2011 at 07:45

http://missioncontrolblog.org/ enough is said. Not even All the Governments in the world can hide evidence forever, catch my drift!http://www.burlingtonnews.net/ufocrashes.html

Admin you keep saying ” where is your proof” But really do you have any other proof yourself, other than your own beliefs or what the Government/ NASA has told yourself and the world. I think not!! You are oblivious just as bad as a lot of other civilization in this world. Every Government in the world is in a race for the most ostentatious technology ever to be built. Do you really believe we are the upmost immense living beings in this era or even this universe? Look at Nazi Germany 1936 – Black forest; Poland 1938 – Jelenia Góra Province or even back in the 1400s Madonna paintings or how about 4000bc Egyptians in Cario and other parts of Egypt! It’s all inevitable facts; just hidden under our noses and eventually like everything with time it surfaces! But how much time do we really have anymore….
“But hey what do I know” I am just one of those firefighter guys who does not get out enough but one major huge movie buff and likes mind boggling Science Fiction or is it? That’s just my prerogative, just like you have your own.

    SS · March 2, 2014 at 11:40

    Ok people this is insane. The creators of the movie said it was not real. Look at the end credits. They say the movie, its charecters, and events are FICTIONAL. Fictional means they are not real.

nemesis79 · September 1, 2011 at 20:31

Apollo 18 is like “paranormal Activity” or Blair Witch Project” movies. With supposed real footage. Its a PR and advertising trick that works and guaranties a good opening in the box office. Off course there is always a secret agenda in NASA and ESA and everywhere else, but I am sure that it couldn’t find a way to the theatre. Apollo 18 mission? I think if it really happened someone by now would have blown the whistle. Off course this does not prove that there are no secret missions or projects of some kind just because the rockets are “accounted for”. But come on… real footage of a secret mission open in the movies? Conspiracy theories are having some truth in them but it is never the real thing.

dialashop · August 30, 2011 at 14:33

I am looking forward to seeing this movie. It would have been nice if they had actually launched Apollo 18 in real life.

1ruqu01 · August 27, 2011 at 02:02

Admin-

I applaud your diplomatic answers. Considering you ARE a government employee, arguing with you on whether or not “Apollo 18” has any truth to it is a complete waste of time.

The general public won’t ever know what really happens behind closed doors, BUT you really can find out a LOT through networks on/offline.

    admin · August 27, 2011 at 18:20

    For the record, I am employed by Armagh Planetarium, not any government.

      MH · December 31, 2011 at 09:30

      then you lied to us in the previous comment when you said
      “I’m not a skeptic of the Apollo 18 footage because I’m a government agent, there’s nothing to be skeptical of. It’s a Hollywood movie with actors!”
      Correct?

        SS · March 2, 2014 at 11:36

        You need to read that statement again. “I’m not a skeptic of the Apollo 18 footage because I’m a government agent” this means he is NOT a government agent. If he was one he would have said “I am a skeptic”.

OMGPhailure · August 25, 2011 at 02:27

ITS A CLEANCPEARACY MAN RUN FOR YO LIFES HUMMANS!!!!1

OMGPhailure · August 25, 2011 at 02:23

Lol…this is real bro you humans are so selfish to think you are the only ones in this universe and Im about to blow your mind…Again.

P · August 24, 2011 at 01:59

I agree with t on this one.. To sit there and believe that the government can’t hide shuttle launches is beyond ignorant.. do the research and you’ll find the facts… Have you ever researched topics such as other countries area 51s… Every country has one just a different name for it.. One day if you have time research the bohemian grove.. That will blow your mind.

    admin · August 30, 2011 at 13:39

    So you have no evidence for there being secret Shuttle missions then?

t · August 20, 2011 at 02:27

Let’s not forget how the United States Air Force “had” its own shuttle system, and said these shuttles could be launched from a highly secured island around the Pacific known as Johnston Island. So is a secret mission really possible, I very well think so.

    admin · August 20, 2011 at 16:06

    I’d really appreciate if you could dig out a reference for the USAF launching Shuttles from Johnston Island.

    ErikwithaK · June 25, 2016 at 13:38

    You can see Johnston Island on google earth. There are no launch facilities and no evidence of dismantled facilities. There were military missions flown by the shuttles, this is common knowledge, but they launched from Florida.

t · August 20, 2011 at 02:14

Well I’m only 21 and looking up things that I haven’t had the chance to live and witness through as some have, but I do agree that the NASA’s budget are up for public records, but this doesn’t mean these missions could have been fully canceled. NASA was once stated that “NASA is essentially a public relations organization or a front that obscures Air Force Space research.” From what I’ve read and researched when ever there is a military involvement or interest this “funding” no longer becomes an issue. I do agree with everything you are mentioning given your career status and knowledge which is much higher than mine haha 🙂 But I see this Apollo 18 movie essentially almost as a propaganda strike. Yes it’s entertaining, and yes it will bring in the $. Every movie has a small message and speaks of some truth, or about looking into these subjects. But back to the Apollo 18 possibly being fact or fiction, in 1963 a high ranking general mentioned in a conference that the US had a defense system in place that consisted of satellites, in orbit not only around Earth but Mercury, Venus, Mars, and more distant planets. Does the public know this? No, and do they broadcast this like the did the big Apollo 11 shuttle mission. Don’t think so either. Makes you think how easy it could really be to send something to space so easily.

    admin · August 20, 2011 at 16:12

    NASA was once stated that “NASA is essentially a public relations organization or a front that obscures Air Force Space research.”
    in 1963 a high ranking general mentioned in a conference that the US had a defense system in place that consisted of satellites, in orbit not only around Earth but Mercury, Venus, Mars, and more distant planets.

    Can you let me know where these were originally said?

    ErikwithaK · June 25, 2016 at 13:41

    What would be the point of defense satellites orbiting the gas giants? What would be the point of them orbiting Mercury, Venus and Mars? Ya gotta think these things through, son.

t · August 18, 2011 at 20:11

I would also like to add that everyone speaks of the funds were insufficient to continue with these missions. I’m surprised that people honestly think that the government doesn’t have an open check book for means necessarily for their benefits. Right there stating that they are not able to require the funds needed for the mission just turned off all the attention to them from the public. Simple procedures..

    admin · August 18, 2011 at 21:19

    I suggest that you might want to read some history books. The NASA budget is a matter of public record. The US government began to reduce it in 1967, an immediate result was that Saturn 5 production was capped at 15. By January 1970, it was decided to sacrifice Apollo 20 so its Saturn 5 could be used to launch Skylab. Further budget cuts (the Nixon administration was very unenthusiatic about space exploration) lead to the cancelations of Apollos 18 and 19 eight months later (after the rockets and spacecraft had already been built).

      stewart prow · July 4, 2012 at 18:35

      why is it as an agent your defending it im a brit and when the second gulf war came Gordon Brown announced to the country that there was a 1 billion pound war chest available were did this come from when the country was broke its exactly the same as this appollo 18 story if the american government needed the funds to fly a secret mission to the moon they could have it who said it would be built on american soil or even launched from american soil also why has no one returned to the moon

        admin · July 16, 2012 at 10:49

        “Gordon Brown announced to the country that there was a 1 billion pound war chest available were did this come from”

        I believe the £1 billion was made available by forcing the country deeper into debt.

        “if the american government needed the funds to fly a secret mission to the moon they could have it who said it would be built on american soil or even launched from american soil also why has no one returned to the moon”

        Please read the post again.

t · August 18, 2011 at 19:59

Good article, and excellent facts. I am just now looking into this and scoping through site after site, but what I’ve read so far is and can be bias. For one, the government has and is a fact “holding” intelligence from “the people” since the 40’s and even late 30’s. What I impose is to question, why be so closed of thinking that this Apollo 18 isn’t real and confirmed mission but classified. I looked at the videos and pictures of Apollo 20 and personally I think it’s load of BS. But 18 could of taken flight and kept under secrecy. I can go on about how easy it is in tricking the public as the government has done so before right under our noses. If you take the accounts of how retired scientist, engineers, and researchers have clearly stated that even back in the 50’s government intelligence was at near 50 years ahead in advancements that they won’t release to the public. A good fact to look at is simply the SR-71, and how productive it was but how long it took to release to the public of it use. And now their not using it? TR-3B perhaps? Project Aurora maybe? It’s a pattern of government intelligence. When decommissioned, something new and far better has been built to replace it. Ex; F16=F22R,and F-117 decommissioned to what we don’t know yet. The governments love of power and control wouldn’t just stop with the use of mechanical machines that were kept air superiority at its finest unless there was simple something far better to use. Whether or not it’s released or leaked to the public is out of our hands. So it’s okay to be skeptic on this so called “artificial footage” of Apollo 18, but don’t turn a blind eye thinking that it never happened. Unless you’re part of the retired arms of CIA, FBI, Special intelligence or have any substantial proof to provide; your words are as meaningless as mine.

    admin · August 18, 2011 at 21:07

    I’m sorry but there is no way that an Apollo lunar mission could be launched in secret. Every single Saturn 5, Apollo spacecraft and Lunar Module paid for and built is accounted for. Look at the astonishing scale of the facilities built at the KSC, where could an equivalent facility be hidden? And what about the thousands of supporting engineers, how could they be recruited and trained for a one off-secret launch without anyone noticing?

    the accounts of how retired scientist, engineers, and researchers have clearly stated that even back in the 50′s government intelligence was at near 50 years ahead in advancements that they won’t release to the public
    References to back this up please.

    A good fact to look at is simply the SR-71, and how productive it was but how long it took to release to the public of it use

    Announced to the public on 25 July 1964, first flight 22 December 1964. (yes, it was public knowledge before it flew, I know that doesn’t fit the legend).

    I’m not a skeptic of the Apollo 18 footage because I’m a government agent, there’s nothing to be skeptical of. It’s a Hollywood movie with actors!

      mayo · September 4, 2011 at 05:46

      of course the government can get a mission started and hidden from the public with out any one noticing.do any one know what is going on in area 51? i doubt it, unless you are part of the government.its a really good question when u come to think of it. why is it we never went back? government lied to us people enough times.they dont care about us people.the government is a group of high powered men who lie , grow and do scientific research for good and bad. and will do anything for it.

      mr moon · September 5, 2011 at 13:44

      and please may you explain to me how you know this to be true?

        admin · September 6, 2011 at 09:23

        I’m sorry but you’ll need to be a little more specific.

      Richard · April 5, 2012 at 01:29

      Not everyone knows this – The Saturn V was not the only launch vehicle – I will leave it at that…

        admin · April 5, 2012 at 12:57

        Go on, that sounds interesting!

        ErikwithaK · June 25, 2016 at 12:52

        You’re right. The Saturn 1B, Atlas and Titans were used throughout the 70s. rme

      Vincent · August 12, 2012 at 05:02

      What do you mean? How can they keep the workers secret? Just like when you have a clearance you can’t talk that’s how. just like when i had a clearance you can’t talk period. Government agent? Did you forget the atom bomb, or advance Nuclear Missles, and the Hydrogen bomb? they were all top secret when being built just as our air defenses, land defense, and troop defenses. CIA, Secret Service, FBI all have clearances. They do a lot of ops that are classified and Secret without the public knowing. So don’t say that the government agencies can’t hide things from the public. Whether or not this film is real or fake it raises questions that the public wants to know. They have that right. I really don’t give a rats ass what you idiots do. Between NASA and all government agencies I don’t know who is worse. YOU people forget that Earth is in Space. you people act like Earth is in this protective bubble that stationary or something. i wouldn’t give a darn if the govenment sent astronaut up there to die and find what ever. I’m not the one who volunteered for that nasty job.

      (Edited for language – ADMIN)
      to say something can’t be done is just idiodic. they said along time ago flight wouldn’t be possible, they said we would never go to the moon. Hmmmm, makes me wonder if you agents are as smart as you should be.

      Jon Smyth · February 20, 2013 at 03:38

      read the area 51 declassified documents…
      they’ve been published w/ testimony from retired workers whose contracts became null and void after retirement age

        admin · February 20, 2013 at 07:41

        Dear Jon, please tell me which ones I ought to read and what will I find there?

        ErikwithaK · June 25, 2016 at 12:53

        So you can expose top secret information as long as you’re retired? Gotchya.

    dama · December 30, 2011 at 23:13

    i could not have said that any better. nod to u

    Vincent · August 12, 2012 at 04:41

    i like what you said, especially about our defense airplaines which brings up the U-2. they had that under lock and key and the Russians knew about it and shot us down when we try to fly over for spy ops. our military has secret branches that our taxes pay for that public doesn’t know about especially after wwii. with the public interest into their own daily lives the average american doesn’t pay attention to what NASA is doing. Could the Secret Service and the Department of Defense spent money in NASA to conduct an experiment on the moon with expendable astronauts? I wouldn’t think that they couldn’t. What they consider things for Mankind and the U.S. Security and our definition are completly different. Besides, they have the power. Would the President need to know? Not really since his position is 2-4 year term. Could this film be fake? Yes. Could this film be real? Yes. Could it be both? It’s possible. Movies are made with messages to bring accross the public to make people think about what they had just watched otherwise what would the sense be in making a film. There are a lot of laws that have to be regarded when making a film. Since NASA once again was on a budget crises and they’ve had many misshaps during launches. I wouldn’t be suprise if tax payers are fitting the bills.
    So to think that the government couldn’t do this top secret is nuts, since the making and testing of the Atom-bomb was very top-secret no one knew it was even being made until they dropped it on Japan.
    Could NASA launch a Rocket without the American people knowing about it. I believe so.
    Do the American people need to know everything that they are doing? No, even if tax money is spent on doing it. However, the government or angencies should be held accountable and by it’s people to see that the law protects the citizens when it goes beyond any morale state in the missions they are setting out.

      ErikwithaK · June 25, 2016 at 13:27

      Preside ts serve 2 to 4 year terms?? Ya learn something new eeeeevery day. Expendable astronauts? Sent by the Secret Service? What would be the point of sending them to the Moon and allowing them to die there? Why is it that CTs tend to ramble, using run on sentences and terrible grammar? Enquiring minds want to know.

      Yeah , the mushroom cloud from the Trinity A bomb test went compleeeeeetely undetected.smh

      The question isn’t whether the US government could launch a rocket without American citizens knowing, it’s whether it could launch a Saturn 5 without the world’s seismologists knowing. The vibrations from such a massive launch created “earthquakes” that measured 4.6 on the Richter Scale. That would have been noticed.

    G · September 21, 2013 at 03:46

    VERY well put, “T”. The ONLY viable proof of ANY past lunar mission would be another trip, with every second streamed live to the web, with several cameras, to a previous landing site to confirm that the hardware left behind is still there.

    Personally, I believe that NASA did send men to the moon and return them safely home. BUT, I also believe that the POSSIBILITY that it was all a hoax does exist.

      ErikwithaK · June 25, 2016 at 13:29

      Yeah, good idea, because live streaming can’t be faked!!

    man · July 23, 2014 at 02:52

    YOU DONT NEED TO LOOK ANY MORE THE FACTS ARE HERE ,GO TO IMAGESONTHEMOON.COM ,NOW IF IS IN THE BIBLE THAN IS TRUE ,RIGHT

steve · August 10, 2011 at 04:28

So did we ever land on the moon? or was it a hoax? haha

    admin · August 10, 2011 at 08:03

    Hi, this one is easy!

    The Apollo missions landed on the Moon. It wasn’t a hoax.

      Gilberto Saugen · November 6, 2011 at 01:01

      To many Brazilians, man has never landed on the Moon, it’s has been a Hollywood special-effects job for NASA only. How come today Americans can’t return to the Moon if today’s technology is much more advanced? That’s the true evidence.
      (GILBERTO SAUGEN from Brazil)

        admin · November 7, 2011 at 10:32

        To many Brazilians, man has never landed on the Moon

        If that is true, it is saddening that so many citizens of a great nation are ignorant or misinformed.

        How come today Americans can’t return to the Moon if today’s technology is much more advanced?

        The technology of rocketry has not changed in fifty years. Can you suggest any technological innovations in the decades since the Moon landings that would make going there easier? Sadly, it is politics and lack of money that has prevented further lunar missions.

        Davros · October 9, 2013 at 02:10

        We haven’t been back to the Moon, because the Moon itself is a hoax!

        man · July 23, 2014 at 02:49

        I BELIVE APOLLO 18 WENT TO THE MOON , AND HAVE REAL PROOF THAT WHAT THE ASTROUANT S SAID ABOUT THE ROCKS BEING ALIVE IS TRUE GO TO IMAGESONTHEMOON.COM IN SEE FOR YOURSELFS,

        TMark · February 11, 2016 at 16:33

        Gilberto from Brazil: “How come today Americans can’t return to the Moon if today’s technology is much more advanced?”
        .
        Probably for the same reason Sir Edmund Hillary chose not to ascend Mt. Everest six times despite more advanced technology. Or was that a hoax too? It’s called reaching a point of diminishing returns. We don’t reinvent the wheel either.
        .
        And if America is supposed to land on the moon a hundred times over five decades, then why can’t Brazil do it even once, eh Gilberto?

          ErikwithaK · June 25, 2016 at 12:37

          We may not reinvent the wheel, but we sure have improved on it. And the Moon wasn’t the end goal, but just the next step.

        ErikwithaK · June 25, 2016 at 12:33

        Do you know how much it costs to send such a small mission to the Moon and back? The Apollo project cost over 200 BILLION dollars in today’s dollars. At its peak, NASA accounted for almost 5% of the federal budget. Return on investment wasn’t worth it. It just cost too dam much.

      kollin jouney · January 3, 2014 at 19:51

      yes but did you see the articles on how tax and budgets affected it if you go up you can read all about it instead of just watching a video or even better i would check with someone who may have worked or is ow working at nasa for a brief history explanation i do sincerely believe that the two missions never did lift off

lara morrison · July 7, 2011 at 22:02

im confused is this film real footage and was there an apollo 18 or was it the apollo 17 that made them not go back to the moon

    admin · July 8, 2011 at 07:07

    Hi Lara, to quote the article “In reality there was a planned Apollo 18 mission but it never left the ground” and “Apollos 18 and 19 were officially cancelled in September 1970 because of planned cuts to NASA’s budget”. Apollo 17 was the last mission the US government was prepared to pay for.

    The movie is complete fiction but appears to use some bits of genuine footage (spacecraft orbiting the Moon and so on) from various missions, but most of it is newly filmed material with actors.

    I hope that helps.

    Jonathan igueroa · January 2, 2012 at 00:16

    no the film is not real footage because i went to go check in the bonus to see what else there was like extra information but no it just said some dudes commentary and allternative deaths and alternative endings

      tim · February 6, 2012 at 20:41

      look i study this and foun evidence like a news article for the santa barbra 1974 by robert cae claming that with a picture there was a lunch and the towns people that heard it went outside and saw it witch nasa said nothing about and when they were questiond QUESTIONS WERE DENIED

        ErikwithaK · June 25, 2016 at 12:23

        Have you ever seen a launch? I saw a relatively small rocket launch, lifting a satellite into orbit, and you couldn’t miss it, as it’s loud. The fact that the Saturn 5 was much larger than any rockets launched before or since, it would have been literally impossible to launch one in secret. The vibrations would have set off seismographic equipment around the globe, the sight of this mammoth rocket being launched would have been seen by others. And you don’t just set it upright and light a fuse, a launch is highly technical and a launch pad and other facilities would have needed to be constructed and thousands of people would have worked on getting it into space, no way that it could remain a secret. You need to focus your energy on who REALLY shot JFK.

admin · February 23, 2011 at 14:37

It’s not mine either, but I find the premise so intriguing that I’m interested in how they’ll bring it off (though I’m prepared for disappointment). Mind you the trailer so effectively precises the movie, there’s not really a need to see it!

    sdf · July 27, 2011 at 00:56

    YES THERE IS

      admin · July 27, 2011 at 08:34

      Interesting but cryptic comment. Care to expand upon it?

        Mireya · May 12, 2013 at 04:03

        It’s a really good movie and it gets you thinking.

    Amaya · July 15, 2016 at 19:02

    I liked it. But I want to now if it’s real.

      admin · July 18, 2016 at 10:26

      Dear Amaya, well, you have found the right article!

John Kennedy · February 23, 2011 at 01:03

I’m in two minds about this.. It’s a good idea, but it looks like a low-budget “shocker” type of movie, which isn’t my cup of tea..

    Martin England · July 3, 2013 at 10:21

    The only thing that makes me believe we haven’t landed on the moon is the biggest even the Russians won’t admit because it could be true is the all so mighty USA was not more then twelve months ahead of the Russians no matter how great they thing they are so if it was possible the Russians would of landed on the moon be it twelve months later with an added twist just to show they could do it too they didn’t and the Chinese no it can’t be done too we’ve been in orbit no issue but to expect us to believe we have landed on the moon now adays not possible dont think they could do it now

      Dave · October 21, 2013 at 23:29

      Hey, i liked your comment, but I could barely understand it.

      ikhutes · November 21, 2013 at 19:51

      why don’t you learn some English – not one punctuation mark. How the heck do you expect to read that?

      (Edited for language- ADMIN)

        ozz · January 30, 2014 at 14:10

        To be fair he used 2 apostrophes…

        TMark · February 11, 2016 at 16:18

        The extreme lack of punctuation and capitalization by bloggers is both amusing and disturbing. I also recall an e-mailer who refused to use subject titles in their messages (you just see their name followed by nothing). “Why no subject titles?,” I asked. His reply: “Subject titles are a sign of weakness, and I drive without using turn signals either.” I suppose those who don’t punctuate or capitalize would use a similar excuse. They consider themselves too important to help you understand them. They don’t realize they’re losing their point for reasons unrelated to their point.
        .
        A 2015 study by Binghamton University in Vestal, NY determined that ending a text message with a period is a sign of insincerity and “heartlessness.” Punctuation is formality, you see. Apparently, formality is for cold hearted strangers, not friends, or those 2,163 so-called Facebook friends we have. So says 126 undergrads surveyed in that utmost scientific study. A sad reflection on modern society.

          Poopstank pappy · October 5, 2017 at 10:08

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    Nidhi Rajesh · October 30, 2016 at 04:34

    How many of the Apollo projects were actually successful?

      admin · October 31, 2016 at 08:34

      Dear Nidhi, thank you for your question. Apollos 7-17 were crewed missions relating to the Moon landings and all of these were successful except Apollo 13. There were other types of missions covered by the Apollo programme, I suggest you look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Apollo_missions (link) for more detail.

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